Archive for October, 2005

The next Mark Fiore?

25 October 2005 by Sean

Okay, Dena sent this to me and I have to say I am impressed. This is some serious Flash work, and really involved politics… Almost too much for one sitting.

I love the fact that it says “voting against your own interests.”

This is a truly tragic issue that moves me deeply. I grew up with some struggles and I care for people who are poor and disenfranchised in a deep and personal way. These people have had their (mostly white and rural) poor-person rage tapped into by wealthy and truly nasty opportunists like Rush Motherfuckin’ Limbaugh and Ann Fatherfuckin’ Coulter, and these opportunists are profiting off it enormously — taking these people’s morals to the cleaners.

Meanwhile, their savage racism has alienated a huge percentage of this country who have at times all but checked out of the debate because of being beaten down for so long. I am happy to start seeing some young people of color jump back in with fists raised.

Wake up white, rural America. It is all a big fat lie. You have been had.

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Religion and Logic Go Together Like Ice Cream and Horse Shit

25 October 2005 by Rockstar Ryan

“‘Faith’ means believing in something you know ain’t so.” - Mark Twain

I couln’t have said it better. I’ve heard so many logical fallacies on this site it makes my head spin. Here’s a short list:

Argument from Incredulity: This fallacy is the basis for all theistic religions. The argument goes like this: The universe is so amazing, Mongo the Serpent-Headed must’ve done it! It is also the basis for (un)Intelligent Design: We are so complex, Invisible Pink Unicorns must’ve designed us.

Similar is the Least Plausible Hypothesis fallacy. It typically involves invoking the supernatural when completely unnecessary: My house caught fire. Surely Throm the Merciless shot a lightning bolt at it because I didn’t go to church. Or the priceless painting is gone! Obviously invisible flying gremlins took it back to their lair. The best way to reason around this is to apply Occam’s Razor, which your Rockstar shaves with daily.

Next we have the ever popular strawman fallacy, ever existentialized by our friend sable chicken. Setting up a strawman is exaggerating another’s argument, thereby weakening it, and attacking it. A perfect example can be found here. Sean wrote an article and stated that stem cell research has been roadblocked by the religious right, known to be of the Xian faith. Sable chicken then put up the strawman and went to town, exaggerating Sean’s argument to include blaming the Xian faith for everything wrong with the world today.

Appeal to Fear. The reason why religion has a grasp on otherwise reasonable people. It goes like this: If you don’t believe Gorlock the Mighty was Throm the Merciless’ prophet, you will

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

BURN IN FIRE FOREVER!!!

Our final trip to Stupidville (pop. 212,500,000), we have Argument from Ignorance. We can’t prove King Muck-Muck doesn’t exist, therefore he does. Obviously, this is no reason to argue for the existence of King Muck-Muck.

We’ll be back with Part II soon. Until then…

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Poll: Majority of Americans are Idiots

24 October 2005 by Ron

Another poll, same depressing idiocy:

Poll: Majority Reject Evolution

Most Americans do not accept the theory of evolution. Instead, 51 percent of Americans say God created humans in their present form, and another three in 10 say that while humans evolved, God guided the process. Just 15 percent say humans evolved, and that God was not involved.

These views are similar to what they were in November 2004 shortly after the presidential election.

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Gay Penal Code

23 October 2005 by Bob

Gay Agenda

Battle lines drawn after Kansas gay-sex ruling

CHICAGO (Reuters) – Gay activists applauded a Kansas Supreme Court decision throwing out a measure that allowed vastly harsher punishment for older teenagers who have consensual sex with underage teens of the same gender. [...] The state’s top court ruled 6-0 on Friday that different penalties for underage homosexual and heterosexual sex violate the U.S. Constitution’s clause barring states from denying people equal protection of the laws. [...] Matthew Limon has served more than five years of a 17-year prison sentence for criminal sodomy after performing a consensual oral sex act on a 14-year-old boy in 2000, when he was 18. Had the boy been a girl, Limon would have faced a maximum of just 15 months behind bars under a so-called “Romeo and Juliet” law that allows lighter punishment for teenagers 18 or younger who have sex with 14- and 15-year-olds of the opposite sex.

Sounds like the Geddes case all over again.

And, for the record, here’s a newsflash for all you Kansas twits: if the ruling is 6-0, that means you’re kinda fucking stupid.

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God and Coffee

23 October 2005 by Bob

Starbucks

Starbucks to serve up God

Coffee drinkers in the US could soon get Jesus with their morning jolt as Starbucks plans to put a religious message on its cups next spring. [...] “You are not an accident. Your parents may not have planned you, but God did. He wanted you alive and created you for a purpose. Focusing on yourself will never reveal your real purpose. You were made by God and for God, and until you understand that, life will never make sense. Only in God do we discover our origin, our identity, our meaning, our purpose, our significance and our destiny.”

Yep, just what we all fucking need first thing in the morning…

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A Classic

22 October 2005 by Bob

One of the best from The Onion:

Little Timmy

God Answers Prayers Of Paralyzed Little Boy: ‘No,’ Says God

“I am the Lord thy God, who created the rivers and the mountains, the heavens and the earth, the sun and the moon and the stars. Before Me sits My beloved child, whose faith is that of the mustard seed from which grows mighty and powerful things. My child, Timmy Yu, I say unto you thus: I have heard your prayers, and now I shall answer them. No, you cannot get out of your wheelchair. Not ever.”

Put this one up on your wall. It’s a great conversation starter (or stopper, depending on the context).

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Happy Halloween

21 October 2005 by Bob

priest

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The Final Courtroom Drama

20 October 2005 by Sean

My brilliant friend Max wrote this recently and said it would be cool for me to post it. It is long, yet hilarious and well worth the read. I laughed out loud through much of it.

Sorry about the all-lowercase. Easier to just reproduce as he wrote it. Enjoy.

a priest interrogates satan in the final courtroom drama

priest = is there any risk in becoming an atheist?

satan = yes.

priest = can you tell us what the risk, or risks, are?

satan = primarily, loss of hope.

priest = hope for what, sir?

satan = hope that some all-powerful being will swoop down at the moment of disaster and save us.

priest = how is this a risk?

satan’s barrister = objection! speculative!

judge = you invoke speculation too often. overruled.

satan = let me just say for the record that the universe has no parent other than a spark, which itself is a child of some prior spark, which was dependent on an earlier spark, and so on. one asks if there must have been someone who lit the first spark, that there was nothing until an uncreated spirit caused being. well, that’s one way to look at it. but for existence to be labeled an exception, and nothingness the default — could that be a fundamental error?

priest = i fail to see your point.

satan = my point is that existence may need no apology. and if
existence is assured then there’s no need to grovel to a savior god.
and once you realize the throne is empty — hey! plop your ass on
the marbled plinth and wank ya scepter ya own damn self! forsooth,
if there is no god, why, then we must becometh one!

uproar, judge bangs gavel.

judge = order, or i flood the room with habañero gas!

the priest takes advantage of the mayhem to lean in and whisper to
satan.

priest = your grand-standing will avail you nothing. nobody cares
about truth anymore. they want security. you think you’re a bold
rebel. well, you’re just a has-been. a loser. and i can’t wait to
see you with your teeth in the dust.

satan = thank you, lord, for delivering this fool to me.

priest = i — what?

satan holds up a microdisk.

satan = got ya on tape. wonder what the media would think if i
shopped this around?

priest = you can’t do that! your honor! your honor!

judge = eh? what are you bleating about?

priest = he’s got a microdisk!

judge = oh come on.

priest = your honor, i saw it. i don’t know why, but he showed it to
me.

judge = is that true?

satan = i didn’t see no microdisk, your honor.

judge = bailiffs! search the witness!

the bailiffs stomp over and pat satan down.

bailiff = couldn’t find anything, boss.

priest = i saw it! i know i saw it! he’s pulling some kind of
sleight-of-hand!

judge = counselor, your febrile squawkings have pushed me to my
limit. if you cannot advance your argument with logical rigor and
need resort to histrionics, you’ve lost the court’s sympathy.

priest = your honor i swear — he had a microdisk!

the ceiling opens and god hands down an index card. the judge takes
it and adjusts his bifocals.

judge = “it’s true. he had a microdisk.” my bailiffs are very
competent. if the microdisk was on his person, they would have found
it.

priest = we all know the defendant is a notorious ‘con’ artist. he’s
got it tucked away somewhere!

satan’s barrister = objection! this is outrageous, your honor. my
client has submitted to the indignity of a public frisk, and neither
of the court’s professional gropers were able to locate a microdisk
on his person. and now we must listen to this hysterical theist
casting aspersions on his character?

satan = couldn’t have said it better if i advocated myself.

priest = look up his drawers!

satan = whoa!

mayhem.

judge = counselor, i’m warning you –

priest = look up his drawers! i don’t know how he did it, but the
microdisk must be there!

judge = order! order! what are you saying, counselor?

priest = he stuck the microdisk up his ass! that’s exactly the kind
of thing he’d do, the old fornicator!

satan = flattery will get you everywhere, girlfriend.

judge = dammit, can i get some order here?

during the tumult satan beckons to the priest.

satan = great job you’re doing. i gotta say, though, even if you
give me the mother of all cavity searches, you’ll never find that
microdisk.

priest = it matters not. the jury is against you now. i’ve planted
the seeds of doubt. as we both know, that’s all it takes.

satan = you’d make a fine devil. and as we both know, the road from
priest to fiend is the shortest of ways.

priest = that road has two lanes.

satan = so it does. but who wants to trudge uphill?

the judge’s gavel breaks.

judge = there goes another one. bailiff, if you please.

a bailiff opens a box of gavels and brings the judge a fresh one.

judge = hmm, hm. good balance, acceptable heft. where are these
made?

bailiff = some sweatshop in malaysia, your honor.

judge = banyan?

bailiff = naw, i’d say teak.

judge = (bangs gavel) shut the fuck up! not bad. okay. where were
we?

satan = i’ve hidden a microdisk somewhere on my person, according to
this fellow.

judge = anybody here see a microdisk?

audience = nope. nope. not us.

priest = replay one of the cameras! they would have picked it up.

the crews review their footage.

crew-member = no sign of a microdisk, your honor.

judge = what’s going on at the moment the counselor says the
microdisk appeared?

crew-member = they’re just talking to each other.

priest = your honor, he even admitted that he had a microdisk. he
said ‘got you on tape’!

crew-member = unfortunately the ambient noise washes out their
speech.

judge = can you see their flappers? maybe we can get a lip-reader.

the camera crews compare footage.

crew-member = for some reason, none of us got a shot of the
principals’ faces during the exchange.

judge = don’t you usually do close-ups during a cross-exam?

crew-member = yes your honor, but the camera operators do not focus
exclusively on the verbal exchange. sometimes they take shots of the
audience, the opposing counsel at table, say, or your own charismatic
self. at this instance, all the cameras happened to be engaged in
shots away from the bench.

judge = that’s a bit of a coincidence, wouldn’t you say?

crew-member = very unusual, but bound to happen once in a while.

the judge looks speculatively at satan.

priest = i’m telling you, judge. he got something going on.

satan = what i don’t understand is even if i did have a microdisk and
recorded the exchange and hid it somewhere, and pulled some kind of
trick that nobody can prove, why get excited? what does it matter?
is that something to bring the trial to a screeching halt?

judge = you’ve got a point.

priest = your honor, he’s up to something. i saw it –

satan = maybe you’re losing your mind.

priest = he took an oath to tell the truth! he’s lying!

judge = if he farts under oath and says he didn’t, who cares. it’s
not relevant. if he has a microdisk stuck up his ass, that’s his
damage. why are you wearying the court with pointless charges?

priest = god saw the microdisk! isn’t that proof enough!

satan’s barrister = objection! even the lord’s word is hearsay.

priest = your honor, i demand a mistrial until these irregularities
are resolved.

satan = i demand this fellow be made to roller-skate nude in a cactus
patch.

judge = order! order!

the priest sidles up to satan.

priest = think you’re clever, eh? you’re like a naughty child trying
to see how much he can get away with before he’s caught.

satan = ho hum, the old parental metaphor.

priest = you saw god hand the card through the ceiling. do you deny
that fact?

satan = i deny no facts. do you deny that all god ever does is hand
down cards through the ceiling?

priest = he does what he wants. he could do more if he pleases.

satan = but i ain’t seen it yet. it’s always cards through the
ceiling as far back as i can tell. why should i expect he’ll ever do
different?

priest = god loves you and will help you if you ask.

satan = and he helps those who help themselves. spare me the
hide-bound emotional appeals. you’re out of your depth. this trial
ain’t a beef between me and god. it’s about whether you can plead
your case in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. it’s
about how good a priest you are.

priest = this trial is about truth.

satan = the truth has long been settled. i’m right, everybody knows
it. the jury is not on your side, neither is the court, and neither
is the public. you’re doomed. unless you want to be handed a
humiliating defeat, your only recourse is to plead your argument with
such eloquence and fire that they let you off with a wrist-slap.

priest = your confidence is a brittle shell.

satan = can’t be that brittle because i’ve put my money where my
mouth is. i’m a man of the world. i own lots of property. i’ve
even got a nice little hostel tucked aside to receive all the
disinherited priests who will flood the roads after the death of
religion. i’m generous in victory. i know what it’s like to be down
and out, singing the blues. all outcasts will be welcome at my hall.
even you. so why not join me, sir, and we’ll have grand revels with
drinking and dicing and the boasting of old days!

priest = they call you the prince of lies and i can see why. your
tongue would be hypnotic to one not versed in your subtle calumnies.

judge = order, order — god-dammit there goes another one. bailiff!
pacify these idiots! what are you two muttering about?

satan = just taunting, your honor.

judge = no taunting. i’m the only one allowed to taunt around here.
hey, you bailiffs, easy on the billies, eh? not in view of the
cameras.

satan’s barrister = well, i don’t have much to do today. who wants lunch?

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